[Trac] Tags

[Muness Alrubaie]

Alexey,

1) Some people prefer tag, others category, and others still label.  I
don't have a preference.  (The terms I think of is "overlapping
namespaces", but I don't think that'd ever be widely accepted.)  This
can be configurable so that people can use whichever terminology they
prefer.  Does that sound reasonable?

2) I started with organizing things hierarchically, hence the "/" all
over the place.  I think tagging/labelling/categorizing can do
everything hierarchies can do, but have not been inclined to actually
go ahead and make all hierarchical entries flat.  This may be the best
thing to do.  What would be nice if I had a whole bunch of content to
tag and see how to best do things.  (Labels with hierarchies or labels
with no hierarchies.)

3) See 1.  This can be configurable.

4) The "%" is being used in ListTags, not TagIt.  This goes back to
the hierarchical stuff.  By adding a "%" to the end of a topic, e.g.
"COMP313%", I match against "COMP313" and everything that is -
hierarchically - underneath it, e.g. COMP313/Week1, etc.

Again, this may simply be a non issue if I limited myself and stopped
using hierarchies.  So, instead of labeling a topic COMP313/Week1, I'd
label it COMP313,Week1.  So, if I need to query COMP313, I just do a
[[ListTags(COMP313)]].  For COMP313 Week1 entries a
[[ListTags(COMP313,Week1)]] would work.


I think that until we get experience with using labels in contrast
with hierarchies, it'll take a while to figure out how to best use
them.  Note that, for example, del.icio.us users often use "/" or "."
to make their tags to behave hierarchically even though the service
does not provide for it.  I don't think this is because hierarchies
are more expressive, but because labelling is still new.  (The only
real, easy to use systems are del.icio.us - and its copy cats - and
gmail.)

I am tempted to strip all hierarchical structure out of the tags. 
Maybe I should simply treat all "/" as ",".  It'd be interesting to
see how well that'd work.

Thanks for your input!

Muness

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:15:09 +0300, Alexey Shamrin <shamrin at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Muness!
> 
> Your project looks nice. But I thought it would be interesting for you
> to read about my initial feelings about it.
> 
> 1. Why do use the term "tag" instead of (much better in my
> opinion) "label"? It will more comfortable for Gmail users, I think.
> Also you may use the term "category" in some places (see #3).
> 
> 2. Your examples are confusing. The reason for this is that your
> wiki names contain "/" too often. It's tempting to think that
> this your use of "/" _is_ the use of tags. I would suggest to
> give tag examples without "/".
> 
> 3. When I tag some page (TagIt) it becomes "Tag:tag_name".
> The better way I think would be something like the following:
> 
> This page belongs to the following categies: tag_name
> 
> or (if you like the term "tag" more)
> 
> This page is tagged under the following categories: tag_name
> 
> or something similar.
> 
> 4. I don't really understand how "%" in TagIt is interpreted.
> 
> Alexey
> 

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